The Parenting Pair Podcast

The Manosphere is in Your Son’s Feed. Here’s How to Talk About It

11.11.2026

A mom overhears a voice on her son's gaming stream telling a woman to "mute your mic and go make a sandwich." Her son laughs and says, "It's just a joke." Is she overreacting?

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Dr. Suzanne Allen:

The research shows pretty high percentage of kids actually don't share things that they're seeing online with their parents. And some of that is because maybe they don't see it as problematic or they're used to seeing it. They're not upset by it. But frequently when they are, they don't share it because they are afraid of our reaction. That we will take their phone away or clamp down on them.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

And so really trying to lead with curiosity, not confrontation.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Back to the Parenting Pair Podcast. I'm Dr. Suzanne Allen.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

And I'm Dr. Annalise Caron.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Annalise, we got a message earlier this week from a parent that I wanna just start with because I think it'll help frame our discussion today. So this parent emailed us and wrote, I was unpacking some groceries the other day while my son was sitting in the kitchen with me. He was doing some scrolling on his phone, and I overheard some gaming noise, and then a man's voice shouting, can you just mute your mic and go back to the kitchen to make a sandwich? I was shocked and immediately furious because it felt to me like a sexist comment here was being made. My son was laughing.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

And when I asked about it, he said, Mom, it's just a joke. Like, don't make such a big deal of it. It's just a bunch of gamers online, and a woman logged on, and he's just messing with her. I was kind of shocked that while he's just watching other people play the video game that he likes and streaming some of that, that this is what he's hearing. I think I'm even more concerned that it seems like no big deal to him.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Am I right to be freaking out about this? And how can I talk to him about it when he thinks I'm the one that's overdoing it?

Dr. Annalise Caron:

Right. So understandable, right? Because if you're seeing these things online, and it just seems like a joke, and I can reflect back, you know, when we were kids, I think things were said and joked around that are really off color and inappropriate. And so, he may have not thought anything about it, and that's genuine, right? So, that's what you're exposed to, and that's just...

Dr. Annalise Caron:

They meant not even somebody he's really paying attention to. But this mom really picked up on it.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

And I think she's asking two very good questions here. And I almost want us... They'll run together, but I want us to separate it out a little The first one, is this something I should be worried about? Am I right to be upset about this? This feels like a big deal to me overhearing this comment.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

And then number two, irregardless of that, I would almost say, if it is something that's bothering this mom, how can I talk to my son about it? When to them, it doesn't seem like a big deal. And so I wanted to start by responding to this mom's first question about, I be concerned about this? And I'm gonna say maybe. Well, it's so

Dr. Annalise Caron:

interesting you say maybe because you... We haven't discussed this this listener question. I read it briefly, but my first thought was yes and no. So so you said maybe. I said yes and no.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

So it's

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

both. And that's probably more accurate versus a maybe, is yes and no here. And I'm gonna say, I've gone I'm gonna go out on a lemon and just reveal, I've heard a lot worse than this. I've heard racial slurs. I've heard when my kids have been watching something that seemed relatively benign, sports videos.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

You know, and then kind of as they're scrolling, one thing will pop up, and I'll hear a word that, to me, is very jarring. So I'm not saying that this isn't problematic, but but I think probably most parents at this point, if you've been near your kids, when they're on their phones, or if maybe you've been on your phone yourself... I recently got a slew of, pictures in my feed that were very concerning to me that seemed to come out of nowhere. So I think this is happening. In terms of, you know, misogynistic content or kind of the specific content of this in which, you know, a male gamer was telling a female gamer to turn off her mic and go back to the kitchen and make a sandwich, I think this mom is kind of tapping into something that probably a lot of people are feeling because it is actually happening.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

And just in the last week, there was kind of a big expose in investigative journalism coming out of Australia that really reinforced and kind of highlighted that extreme content is being pushed out solely based on age and gender, even without user engagement. And I think the statistic that they shared was, you know, they had created these dummy profiles of young men with just their age and gender put in it. And 70% of the content being pushed without seeking for it was anti feminist. And it started from very simple searches like gym fitness workout. So that boys may be starting from there looking up video games

Dr. Annalise Caron:

they Wants like to be healthy. Or

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Wants to learn some new workout moves or whatever. Maybe wants to know, What should I do if a girl ghosts me or if I like someone? Right? So the variety of content that can start kind of very benign.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

So they make that search. You mean, they search for gym workout, or they search for like, how do

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

I ask a girl out? It's very Within benign a very short time, very anti feminine, anti women messages are coming onto their feed very rapidly, solely based on age and gender. And there are similar research that was pulled not that long ago from The UK as well. And if anyone is listening to this United States and thinking, well, okay, that's Australia and that's The United Kingdom, This maps on exactly what's happening in The United States. And unfortunately, The United States seems to be pushing out the most content of this.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

So what's actually showing up in the feeds in Australia and overseas is American youth. Correct. Yes. So our young men are experiencing this as well in this country.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

And I just want to highlight, you use the term extreme content. And I think some listeners might be like, well, that's an off color joke. Right? Is that really extreme content? And I think it can lead to much...

Dr. Annalise Caron:

Very quickly, much more extreme and much more offensive, you know, content. So that's number one. But number two, even if it's of, you know, though I might imagine that that's anti woman and, you know, content being put out, let's imagine it just stays at that level. But if that stays in your feet over and over again, it does change the perception of how we think about each other, how we relate to each other, how we respect each other, whether that is women, or people of a different religious affiliation, or people from different countries. Just when there's this steady drip of jokes that are kind of off color and not appropriate, but that you might not say to your mother, or you might not say to your friend that you really like and know, and you never treat her that way, or whomever, it can affect how people perceive see the world.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

And that's happening all the time, this steady drip. And I'm glad you're bringing up and we're

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

kind of highlighting this, like, joking part of it, Because I think that was also the question of the mom. It's kind of funny and lighthearted to him, but I'm seeing something a little bit perhaps more serious or sinister, maybe thinking about the steady drip of this repetitively and how that might desensitize you to thinking about people who are different than you. You know, I want to... I love comedy. First of I love standup comedy.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Go to see it very frequently. So I would like to think I'm someone who can take a joke and maybe everyone smile make a joke. Yes. And we see in a lot of adolescent boys and their relationships, lots and lots of teasing, joking, roasting each other. And often, you know, we kind of have this adult perspective where we're afraid of like, justifiably so, bullying and teasing.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Right? And so we think sometimes this joking and roasting takes place, you know, from people who are different from each other outside groups. What we actually see is with young men that within their groups of of friendships, that in between close friends, there's a lot of this joking and kind of, you know, roasting each other. And it's a more complex than one kind of theory can describe of why this happens. Right?

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

But we know the teen brain is going under a massive kind of reconstruction phase, and rewards for teens and things that are extra fun during those years. And a little bit of playful banter and messing with each other and joking around is really fun. There's some beautiful work from Nayobi Way, who talks about this crisis connection, who speaks about the tremendous emotional needs of boys for closeness and friendship and care. And that in the younger years, they're apt to get more of that in their relationships. But as kind of they move into these adolescent years, our cultural ideas of masculinity make it harder for them to access that in ways that we might think of like sharing secrets or connecting or giving advice to each other.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

And so one of the ways that boys may seek out some of that feeling of friendship and affection, which is considered more masculine, is the joking around and messing around with each other.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

So you're kind of highlighting it's two things at once. Right? On one hand, joking can bring affiliation, can bring and maybe jokes that would seem a little mean, a little rude, a little like, that's not right to say. But actually, that's perceived and experienced within a group as appropriate or funny and affiliating. So they're not all bad, and yet, there is a lot of content, or they can lead to a place that creates greater disconnection for men over time, or blocks a little bit their ability to be able to maybe open up more or be a little more vulnerable, because this is how they relate.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Yeah. Right? And as we know, and this is a subject, you know, for a different podcast, because I think we'd have to go much more in-depth, that joking can go too far, and joking can be used in cruel ways and with different power dynamics. Right? So we can't just kind of laugh it all off and say, you know, young men are joking with each other.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

That that there are kind of lines that differentiate it. But again, that... I think that will be for a later podcast. Mhmm. But...

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

So I think here's the thing is, you know, we all like to joke around, or many of us like to joke around and have fun. Right? And so I hear what this mom is saying of it can be difficult when it seems kind of light and funny, and when we know that maybe amongst boys, this is a way to affiliate or connect or to feel some... You know, a part of something. And when we come at our teens with this, you know, that's offensive, or you're...

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

You know, how could you listen to that? Or these people are so awful, that that may not always be the greatest entree in. And I would also kind of put out there that, you know, a little bit, maybe this is extreme, but I don't know, you know your enemy. And I think about sometimes some of these

Dr. Annalise Caron:

What do

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

mean by that? So for me, it's... I have values that I'm hoping to impart to my children. And I believe that I understand that they will maybe develop some of their own values and ways of seeing the world that differ from mine over time. And I guess I'll have to try to accept that.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

You'll help me work on that. But I do kind of at times feel like some of the things that I have heard online feel to me like the enemy in which other people are treated, spoken about, discussed, considered to be less than. And so I try to keep in mind, or I'm trying to keep more in mind, that many of these people online, these influencers or Manosphere influencers, can be quite charming, engaging, welcoming, funny. And so my indignant outrage or personal attacks on them can actually create more defensiveness. And I think that's the risk we've run with young people, is putting them on the defensive and making young men feel ashamed for interest.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

If they're interested in working out, they're interested in gaming. So I think it's trying to find that balance. And to me, it's that kind of know your enemy. Like, they might be very charming and engaging, which doesn't mean I have to suppress my feelings, my distress, or my values, but I have to be strategic and thoughtful about how can I engage my son, or how can I engage a male client in a conversation about this to try to educate them about what they might be seeing online in a way that they may not be aware because it's being pushed through as lighthearted in comedy? Right, because it's lighthearted and fun, and because it's honestly so normalized and happens so much.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

But I think also what you're highlighting is that we have an emotional reaction to this because of how we experience it.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

They are not necessarily experiencing it that way because it's so normalized. And so that is just like anything else, like any group where that's something to be shared. But if you want to learn from someone, you typically aren't going to learn if they're highly angry at you for watching this content and your urge is to take the phone away, and you're... That's going to stop the communication and stop maybe their willingness to hear your perspective.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Yeah. And listen, everyone's gonna lose it sometimes, or maybe I'm just saying that because I lose it sometimes. And there's pros and cons to it. Right? On the one hand, seeing a strong reaction, anger, frustration, creates a clear line in the sand here, right, and really lets your kids know, like, hold up a minute.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

There's something up with this. Like, now my mom is mad, or my dad is really upset or offended by this. Right? Like... So sometimes that strength kind of brings attention to something.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

The downside is, of course, as you mentioned, the defensiveness. And so how do we kind of think about this in a way that we can connect with young men over what they might be seeing, which again, can sometimes seem to them very harmless. Just to give another example, you know, there's a common one, and I don't if you've heard this, where, you know, it's like a video and it's like, you know, a woman doing something maybe kind of silly. Like, you know, she goes to shoot a basket and she messes it up, or she's going to do something and she trips over it. Right?

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Just something that might be mildly embarrassing, but not entirely offensive or upsetting. And then there's a meme, know, two guys sitting together, and and they're taking a sip of coffee or... And they kinda look at each other, and they laugh, and they're like, women. Mhmm.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

You

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

know, female driver maybe might be another example. Right? Something like that. So it's not always right kind of in your face. But again, like you said, if your son is seeing this 20, 30 times a day, a little video like this is being interjected, it's that drip, drip, drip.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

It's interesting. What's interesting about that is when you said that I gave that example, I was imagining there were probably people listening to this podcast, and even myself, because it came in my mind, like, Oh, I remember people saying things like that years ago. Aren't we just overreacting? Overreacting?

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

And I will say this with friends sometimes about our husbands or our teenage boys. Right? I'm like, Ugh, teenage boys. Right? And I'm not thinking to myself, Oh, we're being deeply offensive here or slandering the male race.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Right.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

Right. And... But it... But the difference is two things. One, that it's constant, so it can undermine someone's understanding of the other.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

So it... Others, women, in this example. But it can other religious groups or other countries or other anything. But particularly in this example, we're talking about content that's being fed to boys that can, you know, over time, and as the content increases in intensity and negativity, dehumanize women. Right?

Dr. Annalise Caron:

And so, being aware of that. However, you pose the question, how do we go about this, right? And how do we talk about this? And I think it requires a lot of emotion regulation on our own part, pausing, being willing to hear things that maybe we don't like or are triggering to us that is not intentional to be offensive to us. Right?

Dr. Annalise Caron:

But I know from people in my life, I have been educated about things that I was doing that was offensive without my knowledge, and someone had to be willing to share that with me. And then I learned, and it's like, oh, now I see it. Because if you don't see it, you know, I'll just use this example because it's so off the context, but I think it makes the point because I think, you know, this comes up in all different ways, You know, but I am married to a person of Indian descent who was born in India. And I was doing a workout when we were first married. And I didn't have a lot of money.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

I didn't have a step to do the step workout. And so I just piled up textbooks. And he came home from work when we were first married, and I was doing my workout with my foot on the textbook. And believe me, this is going to relate. And his face went just completely he was shocked that I would do that.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

And he said, Stop it. Stop it. And he was very agitated. And I thought he was being really silly, and I thought I was being fantastic because I was not you know, spending the $25 on a step

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

or whatever for the win. And you had to store somewhere, preferably your small home

Dr. Annalise Caron:

Exactly. Or So I thought I was really winning. But I learned I mean, this is a benign one that there have been not benign to him. I'm sorry. Let me let me rephrase that.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

This is one that I was able to learn rather quickly. Sometimes we have things in our ways of understanding the world that are harder to unlearn. But once he calmed down and once I stopped working out because that very quickly ended the workout, how upset at me he was, he explained to me that, you know, sort of in his cultural tradition, in Hinduism, but also just sort of in Indian tradition, you never defame a book, you never step on a book, because that's stepping on knowledge. And what a beautiful sentiment that is.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Right?

Dr. Annalise Caron:

But I really upset him. -NANCY: Yeah. I had no idea. And so, I think our Teen boys are kind of like me in that moment doing my workout. They're just You know, they're chilling after school.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

And some content, and it can get really sexually violent, aggressive, aggressive. It It can can be be offensive. Offensive. But these little things that sort of build to that over time, they may be really unaware of until we bring it to them. But we have to bring it to them.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

He had to calm down and regroup because this was very upsetting to him. I hope you're okay with me sharing this on. So, you know... But then once he explained it to me, I really understood, and I have such respect -NANCY: for Yeah. It's beautiful.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

Yeah. And I think our boys are capable of that, of understanding it. They're not capable of changing the algorithm. But they need to get the knowledge to be able to change their perspective or see it when it's happening. And we have to be calm in order to be able to relay that to them and not judgmental of them.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Yep. And I would almost take one step back from that as well, and even before that, because I think that is a beautiful way to describe that. And I do think emotion regulation is maybe the most paramount, we will have to cycle back to that throughout these discussions. But I would even pull back and I'd reference, while this was a different discussion, our podcast on teens drinking and alcohol use. And we laid out considering safety.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

And so what kind of a dynamic do you want to have with your teen and to alert them that irregardless of choices they make, while you can be clear about what choices you'd prefer them to make and what values you have, that you will be there to listen to them, to pick them up if they need it, if someone's been drinking. Right? Safety, safety, safety. And I think pulling back and kind of taking a moment and thinking, what kind of a relationship around your teen's digital life and digital world do you want to have with them? And when we approach it in that same way of, I want my voice to be exposed to many of the things that I know are out there.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

And yet, whether it's online or in group chats or at the bus or in their sports practice, they may be exposed to many things that I would prefer them not to be. And yet, with safety and an open and honest communication in mind, I would like to set out and I'd encourage other parents to think about this. Right? Setting out that same thing that we might say about alcohol. You can call me no matter what is happening, you know, no matter what the problem is, and I won't get angry with you.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

I won't immediately take your phone, you know, or punish you. To kind of move forward in that same way of, you can share with me things you see online, and I will have to try to, even if I'm deeply upset, manage my emotions about it, and I won't automatically grab your phone, shut you off that program. There may be things to do depending on what's going on online. We're not promising that there won't be some adjustments there. But the research shows pretty high percentage of kids actually don't share things that they're seeing online with their parents.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

And some of that is because maybe they don't see it as problematic or they're used to seeing it. They're not upset by it. But frequently when they are, they don't share it because they are afraid of our reaction. Then we will take their phone away or clamp down on them. And so if we approach this similar to kind of the alcohol thing of, I want to know when I need to know, and so I commit to you that I will try to manage my own emotions.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

And if you mess that up, right, that you recognize that and say, You know what? I totally lost it. Yep. I would say that, and then like you said, that ties right into that emotion regulation component.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

Yes. And so really trying to lead with curiosity, not confrontation. Because when we're overwhelmed, we're gonna confront, What did you see? What if... You know, we've gotta block that, which, honestly, at times, you really struggle to.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Yeah. Yeah. And I think that that word curiosity is a really helpful one. Curiosity with our kids of like, what did you think when you saw that? Or what do you understand about that word?

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Do you know what that joke means? And not an accusatory, do you know what that means? Which I have done, so that's how I can share that with you. But do you understand what they're getting at when they, you know, make that comment about that person or their clothing? So curiosity, because it gives you an opportunity to educate them and see what they know already.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

But I also think this is where that kind of media literacy, digital literacy, and kind of joining in that with your kids of helping them be curious about the algorithm, and what is going on, and what's being fed to them, and why. And here's the secret, money. Right? So making money and gains and power off of all

Dr. Annalise Caron:

of us.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Of them. And I did not create this, so I'm going to reference it, and we will link this in the show notes. But the mayor of London collaborated with Beyond Equality in 2026, and they have a beautiful website with a tremendous amount of resources for parents about talking about kind of what we're calling the Manosphere and talking to young men about some of the things they're seeing online. And they share this acronym called noise. Having parents...

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

And you don't have to go through each one of these, right? But thinking about this as you educate your kids, to do a noise check about some of the things you're seeing online. So if N is negative, does that leave you feeling worse when you see that? Opposition. Does it frame women or other people?

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Right? Men. Does it frame people of a different background than you as the enemy? Or it's you versus them. They're different from you, and they're doing things maybe to harm you.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

And you could be curious about that, right? Because, again, when we personalize it, is that how you feel about Sally at school? Is that how you feel about me as your mom? Do you think about me in those ways? And so, it can just sort of foster their own thoughtfulness about that.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

Are you really in opposition to all women, right? You know, or or girls, you know? So negative, is it negative? Does it pose opposition? This...

Dr. Annalise Caron:

The the middle one, insecure. Mhmm. I for insecure. Does it profit from making you feel not enough? So many of the videos, whether it's workout videos that you have to get a certain size because that's the only way that women would want you, that girls would want you.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Yes. Very common online. Women only want the top 5%. They'll only date a man who's six'two and up or makes this certain amount of money. Right?

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Are there things that are being fed to you that make you feel bad about who you are or how you look or how you show up in the world? And then are they profiting? Because they're gonna sell you this supplement or this Or workout have you joined this group of other young men who feel like you so you'll have some affiliation? Right? So are they profiting?

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Simplistic. Oh, this is my number one for so many things in life online. Does it give simple answers to complicated problems? Right? You're having a hard time dating, and now we know this one thing.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

It's because you're too short or you're You're too short or women are the problem and women only want... Yeah. Yep. Yeah. It's the simple answer that we all know.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

The simple answer feels good. We all want it. I want it. Like, you know, tell me the yes or no. Unfortunately, life, humans, our experiences are way more complex.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

If someone's got simple and really hard. So if someone's giving you a simple solution, that may be a moment of reflection of like, what's this about? And then finally, and I said it before, the e is for earning, is someone making money from your attention and your outrage. Right? Your anger or frustration of how you've been wronged, which goes along with that insecurity and the opposition.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

And

Dr. Annalise Caron:

the opposition and the negative. Right? It's all creating this that pulls you down and being able to see that. It feels like other people are the problem, or it's putting women down, but really, it pulls them down too, and to see that.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

So that's a very helpful resource. We'll link that. And it gives even very specific conversation and talking points, going back to that regulation, of if your son says something to you, you know, like girls only go for rich or good looking guys. I know we've used that example. Right?

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

There's some wording on that website that helps you kind of think of like, okay, well, what's underneath that statement? Right? Because that statement can be really dysregulating. Or maybe even where, you know, feminism is just anti men. Right?

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Like, you know, there's some of these statements. And so it's helping you look underneath. And, you know, like, is your young... Your teen boy fearful of rejection? They feel insecure.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

They're confused about what healthy relationships look like. Right? So, like, versus hearing just the content that might be upsetting, it's like, let's think about what's the emotion or what's driving it underneath. And now here's some questions. Like, you know, does he really think all girls want the same thing?

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Does he know anyone, any of his friends that have had a girl say, can't date you because you're five seven? Like, bringing it back again to the real world of like, does your sister or your niece... Know? Or... I'm sorry.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Not niece. Your cousin. Right? Like... So there's some great examples of specific things to to talk about

Dr. Annalise Caron:

on this giving messages, oftentimes, that are not based in fact at all, and also might be problematic towards their goals, right? A lot of young a part of growing up is feeling lonely and insecure about maybe asking someone on a date or having that date not work out. That's a part of it. And if you have the idea, you you have to be the alpha or you have to be this muscular to even get a girl, then she'll just walk all over you anyway when she finds out you're... You know, it's much easier to think, Oh, well, my loneliness is due to those women and how awful they are, then it's a normal part of my development that's really hard to ask someone out,

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

right? Or to feel like you're... And sometimes loneliness and rejection is a part of life, right? And that's that sitting with that discomfort. And we can all think back to that.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

I can think very clearly to times where I really, really liked someone, and they really, really didn't like me. Oh, for sure. And I just had to

Dr. Annalise Caron:

Not about you. I meant about me. Just for the record, everyone, I wasn't validating. She's not female's about me. Suzanne?

Dr. Annalise Caron:

Yeah. Yeah. No, I was remembering my own rejections in that moment. Put that on the blooper reel.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Yes. Very on. And that... Sometimes we have to feel that way, and there's not necessarily someone to blame or to be angry with, it's

Dr. Annalise Caron:

not anyone's fault. It's... And so we mention that, right? Because in gentle ways, in not huge lecture conversations, but you can get these ideas, these tidbits across to your son. We will link these in the show notes.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

You might just hear something on the phone. You might briefly have a five minute conversation in the car not looking at each other. How's that algorithm been lately? And you can sprinkle in this information because I think it can be empowering for young men to know this.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Yes. And similar to how we shifted some of the tide around cigarettes and different things of people are taking advantage of you, the man is making money off you by tricking into these things. Think that's happening here. Yes. Educating young men that sometimes you know, humor is going too far.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

It's too frequent. Right? And that it's taking advantage of you, you know, to believe in certain things, to act in certain ways, to purchase certain products or join certain groups. Right? Helping them just be more savvy consumers of what they are seeing

Dr. Annalise Caron:

online. And I was just thinking, like, not only are they making money off you, but if over time they quietly infiltrate how you think about the world or how you think about anyone in particular, whether it's women or a religious group or whatever, If you think about them in that way, you're probably gonna act differently towards them. And if you're going to act differently towards them, you're probably not gonna get the date. So it's also working against your goals. And I'm not saying that all men are just looking for young women to date, but I think it

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

pushes... I think all of us are looking for connection. Connection. Friendship, love, -NANCY: affiliation. Right?

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

So, it might be beyond dating, but I think But anything it's true that's for

Dr. Annalise Caron:

undermining... Well, you know, in ways women may be undermined, but it's also undermining men to suggest that they have to be a certain height or a certain muscular level or a certain And so everyone's kind of getting undermined. And just to be able to let your kids over time know that not as a lecture, again, that in conversation with that curiosity and just being like, Yeah, this is what I've heard or... And it is tricky, and

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

I think this is the other thing different when we talk about comedy or other things. I think it was... I don't know if I should say it was easier, but it was different when we were younger. Because if you're watching a TV show together... I remember watching Police Academy, and there was the actress with the very large breasts, there was jokes about that a lot.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

There were things that came up, and the whole family was sitting there together. And so there was conversation. We still have that sometimes certainly around sports because there's a tremendous amount of sexualized ads and gambling ads. There's plenty of conversations. Plenty of countries to have these conversations.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

Yeah. What's hard is that this is in their pocket, and so sometimes we're not seeing all of it, which is where that kind of frequency is problematic. So the final thing that I really want to say, and maybe this is our what now, if you're okay for me saying this, is that there is nothing that just beats real world anchors, real world experiences. And so helping the young man that you are raising identify really positive examples of masculinity and what a good man looks like to them and what a good man would be in their world. Having them, encouraging them, and trying to support them the best you can, whether that is religious groups or acting or sports or activities or just places, you know, spending time with family and grandparents, you know, whatever it is to kind of have them interacting with people in the real world, which we know can help break down stereotypes or these beliefs that kind of set out online, like, this is who you are, and this is who I am, that really just being with people in community in the world.

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

And this is how we grow. This is how

Dr. Annalise Caron:

we grow. This is how we grow, and this is together as community, how we can chip away at these messages and learn from each other. And that's really important. Yeah. This is really just the beginning of this conversation.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

There are so many different layers to it. I even could feel you speaking quickly, Suzanne, because there's so much to fit in. And when we briefly talked about this, and I know you looked into some recent developments and research related to this, there is so much out there. So we will continue discussing this, but we hope that you gently bring your own awareness to it and speak to your kids about it, because we all need to help each other out and guide and bring awareness to what we are all being fed. So with that, if you appreciated this conversation, please share it with anyone you think might benefit from it, if anyone you know has teen boys.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

Also, please give us a follow. Just open up your app and go to the Parenting Pair. And I think on Spotify, it's on the left. You just click follow on Apple. It's three dots on the right.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

Click follow, and we'll show up in your feed next week, every Wednesday morning. We would really appreciate And

Dr. Suzanne Allen:

while you're there, we would also love a reading or a review. You have to scroll down, I know sometimes on the apps to be able to do that, but we read every one of them and we appreciate you taking the time to do that. It really means a lot. So with that everyone, have a great week.

Dr. Annalise Caron:

And now a quick word from our lawyers. The Parenting Pair Podcast is designed for informational and educational purposes only. Do not rely on the information presented in this podcast as a substitute or replacement for professional psychological or medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you have concerns about you or a family member's well-being, contact a licensed mental health professional or physician.

A mom overhears a voice on her son's gaming stream telling a woman to "mute your mic and go make a sandwich." Her son laughs and says, "It's just a joke." Is she overreacting?


In this episode of The Parenting Pair | Teens & Tweens, Dr. Suzanne Allen and Dr. Annalise Caron respond to that listener question and explore how misogynistic content and the manosphere show up in teen boys' feeds, why algorithms can serve it up even when boys aren't looking for it, and how parents can talk about it without shutting the conversation down.

The manosphere is a loose network of online communities and influencers that promote anti-women, anti-feminist messages, often wrapped in advice about fitness, dating, or making money.


Should you be worried? Yes and no. One joke doesn't tell you what your son believes. But a steady drip of "harmless" content can shape how boys see women and other groups over time, and how you respond affects whether he keeps telling you what he sees.


In this episode, we discuss:

  • How algorithms can push anti-women content to boys based on age and gender, often starting from searches like gym workouts or dating advice
  • Why teasing and roasting can be a normal way for boys to feel close, and where it can go too far
  • Why many teens don't tell parents what they see online, and how to make it safer for them to speak up
  • Why managing your own reaction matters, and how to lead with curiosity, not confrontation
  • The N.O.I.S.E. check: five questions that help teens spot harmful online messages
  • How to listen for the insecurity or fear of rejection underneath statements like "girls only date rich guys"
  • How these messages undermine boys too
  • Why real-world relationships, positive role models, and community are the best counterweight

Resources mentioned:

A note for parents: You don't need one big, perfect conversation. Often the most useful ones happen in small moments, like a comment you overhear or a question asked during a car ride. Stay curious about what your teen thinks before jumping in with a reaction, and make sure he knows he can come to you even when something is hard to talk about.


If you found this helpful, share it with another parent, and follow The Parenting Pair in your podcast app. If you have a minute, a rating or review helps other parents find us (and we read evey one!).


Disclaimer: The Parenting Pair | Teens & Tweens is designed for informational and educational purposes only. The information presented is not a substitute for professional psychological or medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you have concerns about your or a family member's well-being, please contact a licensed mental health professional or physician.

Episode Keywords

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